Dave Laird
2003-11-25 01:31:17 UTC
Hi again, Matt...
I moved this conversation over to used_kharma.tech simply because it's
traveling in a lot of different directions... all technical. Not only that,
I know James Vahn drops by here every once in awhile, and he might correct
any mistakes I might make. hehehehe...
It's like working in Pascal. Gulp, in fact it *is* Pascal, well, sort of. It
compiles much faster, though, and it has most of the same old things we used
to love/hate about Pascal. Like VBasic, though, it makes *huge* .EXE's
although the overlays, if you use them, are much faster and boundary errors
are few and far between.
When I started running out of configuration file statements, I started
looking for something else, and it was then, when my "advisor" was trying to
sell me on vi, that I discovered Jed. Now that Jed has gotten so much more
robust, with macros and real-time spell checking, it really is a joy to work
in it all day long.
That was Roger Erdman, and yes, he used it quite awhile, too, and spoke very
highly of it. I remember him talking about using Aurora just now. Like you,
I prefer using the video text mode for editing and writing, but *I* know the
reason why it hurts your eyes using GUI-mode stuph. It's because, when you
switch into GUI mode, you speed up the clock cycles on your monitor, thus
increasing the quivering sensation in what you read. That is one of the
reasons why you're also probably better off in direct synch, rather than GUI
synch mode. You're less likely to come down with cataracts. <Dave sez,
looking at the world through his man-made corneas and lenses.> 8-)
use Knode and still use your favorite text editor, Joe. I use Jed to edit
news articles all the time, and it's as simple as finding a way to drop to a
shell *and* set your editor to run its line parameters the right way. Works
like a charm.
days, they send you one of those infernal white Actiontech boxes, and tell
you it's a "free upgrade". <snork!>
(ha!) to set up Sendmail to handle both SMTP and POP3, although if you're
going to try and run POP3s you will need a working SSL apparatus and a ball
peen hammer. Actually, Sendmail isn't so hard, once you have all the pieces
in place, and delete a few statements from the configuration statements.
Nobody ever said Sendmail was easy, but with just a modest amount of
tweaking, you can get it working. Hell, if *I* can do it, so can you. 8)
got laid off with his wife pregnant, just *after* he bought a new house
because he was told they weren't going to lay him off. I'm trying to help
him get completely debt-free and, if I'm lucky, he might even avoid a
nervous breakdown. It's the first time in his life he's been unemployed
since age 16.
Dave
I moved this conversation over to used_kharma.tech simply because it's
traveling in a lot of different directions... all technical. Not only that,
I know James Vahn drops by here every once in awhile, and he might correct
any mistakes I might make. hehehehe...
Had to take a lunch break from programming in Delphi...
Sounds like, um, fun. ;)compiles much faster, though, and it has most of the same old things we used
to love/hate about Pascal. Like VBasic, though, it makes *huge* .EXE's
although the overlays, if you use them, are much faster and boundary errors
are few and far between.
If I'm not using something like kedit, I'm using joe generally. Force of
habit, I used it way back when I played with Slackware long ago, and I
still use it for the quick editing of files.
<grin> Joe was one of my first Linux text editors, set in Wordstar mode.habit, I used it way back when I played with Slackware long ago, and I
still use it for the quick editing of files.
When I started running out of configuration file statements, I started
looking for something else, and it was then, when my "advisor" was trying to
sell me on vi, that I discovered Jed. Now that Jed has gotten so much more
robust, with macros and real-time spell checking, it really is a joy to work
in it all day long.
I've not really written for long periods of time in a couple of years,
unfortunately. I used to use a text editor under OS/2 called Aurora, just
for the reason you described: text editors should have a blue background
with white text. I also like like text mode video displays since for some
reason it hurts my eyes less. Unfortunately, for some reason with either
my MSI integrated Geforce 4 MX video or with my MSI Geforce 4 Ti4200, I
can't get to a virtual terminal, the video goes completely wonky.
Irritating.
I forgot you had said something about giving OS/2 to a guy a long time back.unfortunately. I used to use a text editor under OS/2 called Aurora, just
for the reason you described: text editors should have a blue background
with white text. I also like like text mode video displays since for some
reason it hurts my eyes less. Unfortunately, for some reason with either
my MSI integrated Geforce 4 MX video or with my MSI Geforce 4 Ti4200, I
can't get to a virtual terminal, the video goes completely wonky.
Irritating.
That was Roger Erdman, and yes, he used it quite awhile, too, and spoke very
highly of it. I remember him talking about using Aurora just now. Like you,
I prefer using the video text mode for editing and writing, but *I* know the
reason why it hurts your eyes using GUI-mode stuph. It's because, when you
switch into GUI mode, you speed up the clock cycles on your monitor, thus
increasing the quivering sensation in what you read. That is one of the
reasons why you're also probably better off in direct synch, rather than GUI
synch mode. You're less likely to come down with cataracts. <Dave sez,
looking at the world through his man-made corneas and lenses.> 8-)
I've not been posting much to newsgroups, I was mostly looking at binary
files, and pan works much better than knode at that. I should go back to
knode for Kharma I think, though.
Ja, iss goot. If you don't know the trick, I can share a way where you canfiles, and pan works much better than knode at that. I should go back to
knode for Kharma I think, though.
use Knode and still use your favorite text editor, Joe. I use Jed to edit
news articles all the time, and it's as simple as finding a way to drop to a
shell *and* set your editor to run its line parameters the right way. Works
like a charm.
It's tempting, but I don't think I could talk my friend into it. Would it
be as simple as chucking the actiontech, returning it to Qworst, and just
swapping in the 675 or 678?
Nope. Qworst doesn't have any 678's or 675's left. If you blow a 678 thesebe as simple as chucking the actiontech, returning it to Qworst, and just
swapping in the 675 or 678?
days, they send you one of those infernal white Actiontech boxes, and tell
you it's a "free upgrade". <snork!>
I'm still wanting to learn how to set up a proper POP3 server on my own,
as well as SMTP. I started to try to figure out bind, but then I decided
it wasn't worth the effort or security risk and went to a third party DNS
management company.
You're probably right about Bind, but I can show you the quick and easy wayas well as SMTP. I started to try to figure out bind, but then I decided
it wasn't worth the effort or security risk and went to a third party DNS
management company.
(ha!) to set up Sendmail to handle both SMTP and POP3, although if you're
going to try and run POP3s you will need a working SSL apparatus and a ball
peen hammer. Actually, Sendmail isn't so hard, once you have all the pieces
in place, and delete a few statements from the configuration statements.
Nobody ever said Sendmail was easy, but with just a modest amount of
tweaking, you can get it working. Hell, if *I* can do it, so can you. 8)
Oh, I was never going to say Cable is better than DSL. I'd take 256/256
DSL over cable any day, as the idea of "shared bandwidth" doesn't appeal
to me. I'd love a 256k modem though. ;) Of course, with the line
"quality" out here, I'd probably still connect at 21.6.
Sounds like you're the last tin can on the string. 8-(DSL over cable any day, as the idea of "shared bandwidth" doesn't appeal
to me. I'd love a 256k modem though. ;) Of course, with the line
"quality" out here, I'd probably still connect at 21.6.
I wouldn't mind it. I'm a poor boy who still lives with his Daddy, since
I rightfully knew Software Spectrum was about as unstable a job as they
come. I'd be completely sunk if I had a lease on top of my other bills
right now if I had moved out.
Hey, you were much smarter than one of my friends that worked at Agilent andI rightfully knew Software Spectrum was about as unstable a job as they
come. I'd be completely sunk if I had a lease on top of my other bills
right now if I had moved out.
got laid off with his wife pregnant, just *after* he bought a new house
because he was told they weren't going to lay him off. I'm trying to help
him get completely debt-free and, if I'm lucky, he might even avoid a
nervous breakdown. It's the first time in his life he's been unemployed
since age 16.
It's not my setup, and I'm not over there enough to call and bitch about
it, unfortunately. One of these days I'm going to sit there and wait for
it to choke, then call and get someone's attention. ;)
Great plots are made out of such things. 8-)it, unfortunately. One of these days I'm going to sit there and wait for
it to choke, then call and get someone's attention. ;)
Dave
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Dave Laird (***@kharma.net)
The Used Kharma Lot / The Phoenix Project
Web Page: http://www.kharma.net updated 11/17/2003
Usenet News server: news.kharma.net
Musicians Calendar and Database access: http://www.kharma.net/calendar.html
An automatic & random thought For the Minute:
This must be morning. I never could get the hang of mornings.